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NDS 8″ Pro Series Channel Drain

Recently, a number of people contacted us regarding the NDS 8 inch Pro Series Channel Drain. In a previous article, the 8” Pro Series was mentioned, though not in any great detail. In this article, I’ll elaborate on the channel and grating features this popular channel drain system.

The Pro Series by NDS

The Pro Series is a family of plastic channel drain products manufactured by National Diversified Sales (NDS) under licensing agreement from First Plast S.R.L. (Italy). There is a similar product line in Brazil made by Tigre Plastics that may be licensed under an agreement with First Plast, as well.

These injection molded channels are made with PVC containing ultra violet light inhibitors to help prevent fading and cracking. Pro Series channels are neutral (non-sloping), reinforced with ribbing every 4 inches and come in widths of 3”, 5” 8” and 12”. Options on grating, channel length, corner sections and outlets differ between the various width products.

However, each Pro Series channel features a unique, interlocking end joint connection. The reinforcement ribbing doubles as a cutting point (in the event that the channel needs to be shorted) which maintains the interlocking end joint connection. These features help make the Pro Series product line a smart, affordably drainage system for residential applications.

8” Pro Series Channel Details

The 8” Pro Series channel is used in applications where rain water accumulates rapidly or in applications requiring a larger runoff reservoir than is offered by the smaller Pro Series products. Technically speaking, the 8” Pro Series is named for its  width, which is actually 7.875 inches wide. The channel width, or throat, is about 6 inches wide. All channel lengths are ½ meter (20 inches) and are available in shallow or deep profiles (shown below).

The 8” shallow channel is about 4 ½ inches from the top of the grate to the bottom of the channel. Each shallow channel will hold 2 gallons under static conditions (no flow). The 8” deep profile channel, in comparison, is 7 ¼ inches in height and will hold 3.5 gallons under no-flow conditions. The amount of runoff water that these drains will effectively handle depends on the length of the drain, the diameter of the pipe used to drain the system, the pitch of the channel and the size of the openings in the grate used with the system. NDS has technical data that can be used to design a trench drain system capable of withstanding rainfalls typical to your geographic location.

8” Pro Series Outlet Options

Both the shallow and deep profile channels have end caps that can double as a 3” or 4” sewer and drain pipe connections. (See Below) These end caps have knock out sections of plastic that enable water to flow out or in. The shallow profile channel has an additional fitting that allows 3” or 4” S&D pipe to be attached to the drain from the side or the bottom of the channel. The deep profile channel doesn’t have this option. Again, there are knock out plastic sections that cover each of the pipe attachments on this special outlet.

8” Pro Series Grating Options

NDS sells 4 grating options for the 8″ Pro Series. Each grate is 7 ¾ inches wide, 19 5/8 inches long and ¾ inches deep. You will need to have one grate for every section of channel, as they are the same length. Each grate is connected to the channel by 4 stainless steel screws (sold separately).

Two of the most common 8” Pro Series grates are shown below. The top grate in this photo is a pedestrian rated perforated grate (Part No. 836) which is ADA compliant and can drain 15.33 GPM per linear foot of grating. The bottom grate is the standard light traffic slotted grate (Part No. 837) that has over twice the draining capability of the perforated grate. Both grates are made of high impact Polyolefin and are light gray in color. Not shown in this photo is a glass reinforced nylon slotted grate (Part No. 838), which is said to be able to withstand heavy truck traffic while also being ADA compliant.

Two cast iron grates are available for the 8” Pro Series. These are shown below. The black slotted grate (Part No. 888) is made by NDS, has 54 GPM drainage capability per linear foot of grating and is able to withstand truck traffic. The decorative grate beneath the slotted grate is called the 8” Carbochon and is made by Iron Age Designs. This grate was specifically designed to fit the 8” Pro Series channel, is made of ductile iron, is ADA compliant and has a higher open surface area per foot than any of the NDS grating options.

The Carbochon grate isn’t supplied with bolt-down holes or a protective coating to prevent rust. However, the aesthetics and pricing of this Ironage product make it an attractive option to the standard slotted cast iron grate. The Carbochon grates are available from Trench Drain Systems and can be purchased with an oil-baked finish or a custom epoxy coating.

Pro Series Installation Features

The Pro Series channels have three useful installation features that are common to all available sizes. These are illustrated in the photo below.

Pro Series channels have a unique interlocking channel design that is the key to their modular system success. This “tongue and groove” design allows each channel to securely lock to the adjoining piece. The “male” end of the channel easily slides into the “female” side of the adjoining channel when adding length to the drain. This connection joint can be made stronger by using PVC cement at the contacts prior to locking the channel together.

Another key feature that makes the Pro Series a unique modular system is the reinforcing ribs. Not only do the ribs give the channel walls rigidity, they are designed to be a cutting point for channel shortening while still keeping the “male” end of the channel that is necessary for attachment. No other trench drain system on the market has this feature.

Each channel also has “feet” that can be used as a rebar attachment site during installation. Generally, rebar is hammered into the ground at the foot locations. Wire is then wrapped securely around the rebar and channel foot. Final adjustment can be made to the channel to ensure the top of the drain is set to the desired elevation prior to pouring concrete. Instead of rebar, wood stakes can be used. In this case, wood screws can be used to firmly attach the channel foot to the installation stake.

Summary

In summary, the NDS 8″ Pro Series is a high volume channel drain for residential applications. The wider channels help insure that water is quickly removed from hardscapes. The unique design of the Pro Series facilitates ease and speed of installation. Grating options are comparatively meager, but growing due to the new selections becoming available by Iron Age Designs. For questions regarding this product line, contact the folks at Trench Drain Systems at 610-638-1221.

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Extruded Channel Drains (Part 2)

Last entry discussed differences and commonality between extruded channel drains manufactured by NDS and Stegmeier. I wanted to continue along this path and discuss two other very similar extruded products — NDS’s Spee-D Channel and Stegmeier’s Flowmaster. The Flowmaster is marketed as a professional grade channel drain for swimming pool decks. The Spee-D Channel is sold as a general purpose drain for residential applications that include driveways, paver patios and pool decks. Let’s first look at the two products side by side. NDS-Stegmeier-Comparison-pr1-300x199NDS Spee-D Channel is to the left while Stegmeier’s Flowmaster is to the right. Both channel drains have a similar cross section and have similar geometry. Both are about 5 inches wide and 3 inches deep. Both products are made from extruded PVC.

Two things stand out in the photo above. First, the wall thickness of the plastic is greater in the Stegmeier product. They also have a smaller amount of open air space than does the NDS product. This makes the Flowmaster channel much sturdier than the Spee-D channel. You can feel the difference when you hold the product. Normally, I don’t like to recommend extruded channel drains in regions that see frigid temperatures because of my concern for cracking during freezing and thawing. I think the Spee-D channel is susceptible to rapid deterioration in this environment. The Flowmaster channel drain stands a much better chance of holding up in colder regions because of the more rugged wall design.

The second apparent difference between these two products is the design of the grate rails. The Stegmeier product has a curved rail that requires a specially designed grate. The NDS product has a straight rail. This may not be much of a difference. But, I think the NDS design makes grate replacement and removal easier. Their design also lends itself to easy adaptation by other grate manufacturers.

Let’s look at some of the grating options of the two products. Below you see the Flowmaster with an aluminum slotted grate. It snaps into place wonderfully. You can buy this in three colors (silver, tan and white). This grate also comes in plastic (again three colors). However, if you wanted to use this product for anything other than a pool or deck application, you would have a difficult time with the grate. I feel the grate would compress or crush a little under car tire applications, for instance. Maybe I am trying to “over apply” this product.

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On the other hand, The NDS Spee-D channel has a variety of structural foam grating that is capable of small automotive traffic. If you want ornamental cast iron grating, it is available from Iron Age Designs. Maybe, the Spee-D channel doesn’t look as good as the Flowmaster in a pool deck application, but it has a broader residential appeal due to the grating options.

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Another difference between these two products is in the way they couple. The photo below shows NDS (left) and its well-engineered channel coupler versus Stegmeier’s simple design internal coupler. I don’t know which is best. I think the Stegmeier coupler is simple and gives a sturdier connection. I think the NDS system is neat looking, though. And my gut feeling is that the Stegmeier coupler will allow water to seep into the wall cells easier than the NDS coupler. It’s just my gut feeling folks!!

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I guess the last thing to talk about is pricing and availability. List prices of both channels are comparable. However, the popular home improvement stores usually carry the Spee-D channel at well below list pricing. Grating is where the pricing differences will be felt. The

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Flowmaster grates are generally more expensive than the “off the shelf” Spee-D channel grate. However, you will most likely have to special order any Spee-D channel grate if you don’t want gray plastic. Cast Iron grates for Spee-D channel can be ordered online in raw iron or with a Baked-on oil Finish. The Stegmeier channel products are sold in pool supply stores and by special order. Their distribution network is not as well developed as NDS. If you like the Flowmaster product line, and can’t find a dealer, you can purchase this product over the internet.

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